280Z stuff
 

Yikes! I just saw the miles on this Z and its not good its nearly 300K I'm slightly amazed that this engine still runs good! I knew L engines where strong but damn... Uh Anyways is there something I should look out for? besides oil leaks really

Oh Ya... PICS! :biggrin:

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Not to bad huh?

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Its got its fair share of rust tho. But its not nearly as bad as I feared it may be! And get this I will be like the 3rd owner of that Z!

PS: Steel wheels, R180, and an auto suck!
PSS: Why are all the Zs I've ever owned brown...

I thought you were dead set on a 240z? :D I coulda sold you my 280zt... if I would ever get around to wiring up the ecu.

... Want a Camaro? The deal I struck with him was a trade and he gives me $500 soooo ya ^^" Unless you want an 89 Camaro RS I dont think I can get your 280ZT lol

Anyways I changed my mind once I realized how stupid simple it is to make a 240Z "clone" from a 280Z

just pull off the bumpers and 95% of people you meet cant tell :042:

To me is screaming oblivious tho! Unless they changed the tail lights and a few little things lol

lol if you want to get real technical theres a ton of stuff thats different but as far as outside goes its the tail light, front marker lights and grill, vented hood, emblems and real bumper holes/indents in the rear.

interiors a ton of changes :083:


you planning on putting in 240z tail lights?

looks to be a 77-78 right?

Its a 78 Ya. and I want to put 240 lights on it but I may just get the those Euro spec tail lights lol

Don't you have to cut out the whole tail light panel for the 240z swap?

Idk and Im not getting the Z today thanks to Vernals shitty ****ing uhaul!

ya thats why I asked him, the metal is different so you will have to cut out a 240z tail light panel and weld it in of you want to run the 240 tails.

How'd he get that much rust in Vernal, Utah? Did it used to live in the snow/ski/mountains area?

Depending on how it was maintained, a 300k L28 may not be too bad. Mine had about 275k on it when I bought it. I mic'd the crank when I took the engine apart for my rebuild and modifications, and the most wear was 0.0003" on one rod journal. All other rod and mains were 0.0001" or 0.0002". Just a couple 10,000ths of wear. If the head was maintained (valve job, guides/seals), it could be quite nice. On the other hand, while Z-shopping, I saw one owned by an idiot who did basically no maintenance and threw a rod, punching a hole in the block in less than 200k. :disgust: I politely said it wasn't quite what I was looking for and wished him luck with his sale.

Still, I hope you're in a body work kind of mood if you get that one. That's a lot of tin worm damage to go after. Good luck, and here's hoping it's one more Z saved!
cheers,
Dave

You know?If that dam camaro would just sell I would have gotten myself a 72 240Z... Now Im questioning if I want to do the trade Im a bit worried I may be getting in over my head in work on the car, engine wise anyways.

Ok Im gonna go get the Z Wednesday I've decided I want it for sure, And if there really in a 280ZXT I'll go get its engine and transmission if they dont ask to much for the stuff.

OKAY! I got the Z home Safe and sound! Now, I have checked and replaced any bad fuses, and the fuse-able links are fine. But Im not getting any power at all to the wires to the fuel pump. Any ideas?

Did you check the fuel pump relay?

Did you check by Tear A Part for that 280zxt today?

I just picked up the Z and left unfortunately
I was gonna ask you if you could pick up the manual stuff needed for a auto to 5 speed swap from that 240Z an PNP then I'll play you back for it and for the work for it (Tried to get into PNP but it was so full I couldn't get my truck in @.@

And where IS the fuel pump relay!? I've been looking for it but I cant see it anywhere...

I could probably do that, unfortunately I won't have any time until Monday or Tuesday... the rest of my week is booked so solid I can't even go buy the BMW I've been looking at...

FPR on a 280z is right above the hood puller handle. There's a pic in the FSM from xenons30.com

Oh... I was looking all over the engine bay for it lol Im to used to S130s lol

And if you cant, dont worry about it. ITs just that 240Z will be the cheapest way I can get all that manual parts needed @.@
Driveshaft,
Brake/clutch pedals
Shift boots
Hard lines

... Hmm I'll check ebay for now

And front Turn signal fenders.... Bleh I just better plan another trip out and pray there isnt to much snow...

Fuel pump relay isnt clicking. Going to check the wires for power when Im not frozen solid

Huh, California Model Z... I got a lot of stuff to start deleting lol Gotta remember to leave the vac line for the auto tho

Well I fixed it all now, And now theres a new problem. Its has an electric carburetor fuel pump. Not an EFI one. Good thing I have a spare!

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And I forgot the one for 5 lol

Anyways A new problem showed up, the rear drivers side drum is frozen up and I can NOT get the sucker off... Any ideas?

5 is quintuple ;)

and I would just use a BFH and plenty of penetrating oil (I'm assuming you're replacing the shoes and having the drums turned though)

I just wanna get it unfrozen for now really. not ruin it. I found a few tips of getting them off tho and I'll try that.

well, if you're careful, a BFH won't ruin it, iirc that's what my dad used on my Firebird when we were taking it apart for the first time...

There are two holes for 12mm bolts... thread them in lightly & the drum will back out.

Those holes are threaded? Must be to corroded to tell... I know there was holes for 280ZX disks but not S30 drums. huh, well I'm gonna work on it tomorrow morning, Already tried tapping on it with a rubber mallet, no luck, I'll try that drum removal info from the FSM and the link in the tech pages of Z driver. Still no clue after that then I'll use brute for to get it off

BTW, if I remove all of the California emissions junk Im not going to hurt anything am I? ECU wise that is

If you remove it all "correctly" it won't hurt anything. :D I take it it's not an N42 intake?

I... have no clue, looks like an N42, but its got an EGR on it

And "correctly" As in leaving no vacuum leaks, correct?

No webbing between the runners?

if it's a '78, then it's got a webbed N47, I'm pretty sure...

Yep, no webbing between the runners at all

Right its a 78, wrong on the webbing lol

damn Datsun and using all sorts of different intake manifolds... lol is it an early '78 then?

3/78 CA Model, 280Z

Yep its an N42 with a soon to be deleted, EGR.

Uh does anyone have a spare EFI fuel pump mount for a 280Z? Mines missing...

Anyways, I got the right pump installed and I just bypassed the fuel pump wiring to the unused toggle switch in the dash. Now its getting fuel and trying to start but it doesn't want to, I can smell the really old gas being burned tho so I think thats my problem...

Ok this is odd... I got it to run and run pretty good. I have the fuel pump currnetly hard wired througha switch I have, straight to the battery. now heres the thing

When I have the fuel pump on the car will turn over but not start, even with starting fluid, and it DOES Have a spark!
BUT When I turn off the fuel pump the car will start and run for around 30seconds to a min WITH THE PUMP OFF.

And Yes I've already checked to see if I have the switch backwords, it is now, as when the pump is off, I cant hear it, and when its on, you can

Ok I started messing with the fuel pump relays to get the old wiring working (I think that might be part of my problem) And Im working on checking the fuel pump control relay and I unhook it to double check it and when I re-hook it, The engine starts turning over by itself!

What the hell is going on..... @.@ Im so confused...
Can someone tell me what relay is what on a 78 280Z? The FSM Says the one I was working on isnt related to the starting system... Unless I somehow managed to turn around the connector and by pass the start switch in the ignition but I didnt put it on backwards!

Ok found out a few wires have been jumped, and the second relay (4 prong) is clicking, but not working... I REALLY dont feel like spending $98 on a damn relay...

Would it be a bad idea if I bypassed the secondary relay, and just used the control relay to work the fuel pump? Any ideas please?

junkyard relay?

This relay is only in this year of Z @.@ So I made a new relay plug that fits a headlight relay one so Fuel pump is now working right, my Alt gave out and I replaced it, not Im having a hard time getting it started...

Hmm Well Im getting closer.

Ok a bit OT but I need to figure it out, ATM none of my dash lights work at all and my tail lights dont light up at all, Headlights, turn signals, side marker lights all still work. No bad fuses I already checked.

Somewhere I read that the problem lies in the dimmer switch. Does any one know?

Also I searched, but only came up with 280ZX and Z31s with the same problem

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Ok shouldn't all 4 wires on the top of that box have power to them when the light are all on?

Off- 1 Wire with power
On first- Same wire with power, no others
2nd Click- Red wire has power along with the first one.

Im thinking that means the switch is bad... Or am I missing something? Please help I want to get this thing Inspected here soon so I can drive it around before winter hits

OK, I'm installing the relay box from my 83 280ZX To have a relay system for the dash/tail lights, Headlight high and low, and to have a starter relay (that annoying click drives me up a wall when the battery is partly discharged.

I also removed the nonworking factory AC system, and next Im gonna remove the cat and The adjust the Valves and the car would be fine.

I wish I could just unplug the one from my 280ZX 2+2 Sense it has the fuel pump control relay and everything the 280Z has but in a relay box not a huge metal brick...