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Trevor280z 02-10-2004 11:51 AM

Whats involved in a cam swap
 
From a stock 280z Camshaft to a motorsport performance one... including replacing lashpads, valvesprings and rocker arms. This will justify whether or not Ill purchase one.

AllmyZs 02-10-2004 08:51 PM

From what I have read. You replace vevrything except the rocker arms. The stock onesare a lot stronger than any of the ones you get with the cam. There is an article on this forum somewhere that tells you everything.

Bleach 02-11-2004 07:55 AM

WHAT!?! No, that is bad info. You always replace every rocker arm with a new cam or you'll ruin your new cam!

Each cam and rocker, although they appear smooth has a certain wear pattern. That pattern on the rocker will eat up a brand new cam lobe and shorten its life. You always buy new rockers.
The real answer is to buy Nissan or Japan made rockers, not USA, Taiwain, and especially not Crane Cam's rockers. Motorsports may tell you they have OEM replacements, but they are not. Buy the cam alone, and then go to http://www.importedcarparts.com and buy their "Japan Made" rockers for about $12 apc. VERY good price compared to Nissan. These rockers come from Japan and have a Nissan part number on them... hmmm... ;)

If its not time to replace your timing chain, then you need to make a chain block and block the timing chain according to the instructions in the Chilton manual for Z's. Remove the upper cam sprocket, then loosen all the rockers and slide out the cam. Put everything back in new. Its not hard at all. I did mine with the engine out though.

However, I would recomend taking off the front cover and replacing the timing chain. Also, you'll remove and replace your oil pan gasket. You'll basically have all new gaskets in the entire engine, except for the head gasket itself. Should be no oil leaks! (oh, and the rear main seal won't be new)

preith 02-12-2004 10:31 AM

My guy who builds L-series race motors always uses used rocker arms, and NEVER has any problems. Sometimes I wonder if the whole rocker arm theory came from the V-8 guys, and it might be true for them.

Yeah, I got bit by the Crane rockers. Total crap!!! And I did replace them with used factory rocker. Put 25k miles on since without any problems.

Depending on the cam size (if it's relatively mild), you can get away with stock springs.

Trevor280z 02-14-2004 05:20 PM

Ok heres my list:

Camshaft @ MSA
Rocker Arms @ above website
Lash pads @ MSA
Valve Springs @ MSA
Block off plate @ MSA
Cam oiler????


MSA sells a timing chain kit: gears, guides, tensioner and gaskets for $97, is that all worth it?

Also, this may be a stupid question but is there any possible way to swap the cam without the timing being messed up? I dont have a timing gun is the reason.

preith 02-14-2004 09:17 PM


Also, this may be a stupid question but is there any possible way to swap the cam without the timing being messed up? I dont have a timing gun is the reason.
The only way would be to be off a tooth on the cam gear, but this would not show up with a timing light anyway.:confused:

You'll have to abandon the cam oiler bar, which I was never too much in favor of.

I seem to remember looking around for timing sets and MSA's prices where pretty good. Depending on the miles, it's worth it.

zr8d 02-20-2004 09:12 AM

is that price, $42.69, for all 12 rocker arms or each.


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