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Half-Azn_Ninja Oct 23, 2008 05:01 PM

exhaust question
 
I need an exhaust system. everything after the header. Its going on a 74 so it doesn't need to smog.

I'm looking at twice pipes,
http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/PEC09/15-6030

Are they quality parts? Should I get a custom one made instead?

NismoPick Oct 23, 2008 07:11 PM

Snw put twice pipes on his S30. A quick search will probably find them for you. :D

Half-Azn_Ninja Oct 23, 2008 07:58 PM

Ok, I'll look for it. thanks


Edit: I found it but snw, your video is no longer working, could you post a new link so I can listen?

Thanks

Half-Azn_Ninja Nov 5, 2008 09:04 PM

anyone know if that twice pipes kit can be separated? they look to be attached at the muffler.

i really want one pipe on each side instead of both together

snwbrderphat540 Nov 5, 2008 09:12 PM

oh snaps im sorry i didnt realize i was in need. lemme come to the rescue

NismoPick Nov 5, 2008 09:13 PM

Yep... the pic on MSA should help:

http://www.thezstore.com/store/graph...roup156030.jpg

FYI... dual exhaust (both sides of the car) is usually for V6 engines... not Inline 6 engines. Just a personal pet peeve of mine when someone puts dual exhaust on an inline 6. :D

Kinda like putting a turbo sticker on an n/a car.

snwbrderphat540 Nov 5, 2008 09:18 PM

heres the link to the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOtCBSKT5j4

and heres a picture so maybe it'll break down better for you

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/HPIM0660.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/HPIM0662.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/HPIM0670.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...l/HPIM0671.jpg
it doesnt come with the headers but GET THEM! also, i shouldnt have sold that car. sure teh bike is ****in sick and i got like 6k from the car but i put SO MUCH TIME and hard work into it.... im about to cry


also the exhaust is a PAIN IN THE ASS to install have a buddy and some jacks because the thing likes to fall apart as you fit it all up there my suggestion is to get EVERYTHING put up with NO CLAMPS ON have it snug to the body make sure theres an adequate amount of pipe inside the tappered ends of the other pipes THEN add the clamps make sure none of it moves on you.


and the MSA header is painted like **** so scrape it all off then repaint it yourself with super high temp header paint or do some header wrap

Half-Azn_Ninja Nov 5, 2008 09:34 PM

thanks guys.

also, why does it bother you if there are two pipes on a strait 6 engine? it really bothers my that they arent balanced, im kinda ocd like that i guess

NismoPick Nov 5, 2008 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Half-Azn_Ninja
thanks guys.

also, why does it bother you if there are two pipes on a strait 6 engine? it really bothers my that they arent balanced, im kinda ocd like that i guess

Because V6's have 2 exhaust manifolds, thus 2 possible exhaust pipes. On an inline 6, there is one exhaust manifold, thus necessitating only one exhaust pipe. Skylines and Supras don't have dual exhaust do they?

Half-Azn_Ninja Nov 5, 2008 09:40 PM

aaahhhh, i see where you're coming from. that makes sense. i still like things matching though. sorry.

snwbrderphat540 Nov 5, 2008 09:41 PM

it is balanced... you see how it ALL flows into ONE PIPE before splitting back into two seperate pipes? yup thats where its balanced. between cylinders though not banks like in V style engines. trust me its a great design preformed well and sounded like gods having sex

Half-Azn_Ninja Nov 5, 2008 10:13 PM

thanks guys

im gonna buy the twice pipes, and the car im buying comes with msa headers sooo, yah. thanks for the help though, the pics were good

280zx2by2 Nov 6, 2008 03:37 PM

lol if your so OCD about it then buy another exhaust manifold then another motor to go with it... if your gonna be OCD dont be half assed about it go ALL THE WAY!!!!

wow dual L28s in a V12 configoration!!!! got me all hyped up!!!! now lets not get in to an arguement about how this wouldnt work... unless you guys want to :)

custom exhausts dont cost much either (at least they dont here) just get a good header, y pipe flange, and your muff and let em get to work... but some places wont get rid of cats but if thats the issue your at the wrong muff shop

snwbrderphat540 Nov 6, 2008 05:40 PM

your just a bunch of haters. though that exhaust doesnt hug the undercarriage as well as a single exhaust it sounds like a classic race car its super sexy i spooged the first time i ran the car with it. lol. you know you guys like it to.

NismoPick Nov 6, 2008 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
your just a bunch of haters. though that exhaust doesnt hug the undercarriage as well as a single exhaust it sounds like a classic race car its super sexy i spooged the first time i ran the car with it. lol. you know you guys like it to.

I agree... those twice pipes sound and look awesome. (I'm) only hatin on the dual exhaust tip (one on each side of the car) idea.

snwbrderphat540 Nov 6, 2008 05:49 PM

oh i know nismo. i was talkin about asa and 2bygay lol. even though i think asa is being sarcastic. its really hard to not like the sound of that exhaust. i loved it so much thats the reason i didnt turbo that car i started to research weldrs so i could go SC lol

Ratfink Nov 6, 2008 06:05 PM

Here is a clip of mine with flowmaster super 40. I like the sound of it too. Hard for me to decide whether I like the twice pipes more, but it does sound good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBQ9wVYUGWA

And one under load. Though not much load. Wet the ground so I didn't lose my tires yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdTG95UeF8g

snwbrderphat540 Nov 6, 2008 06:52 PM

haha dont worry i figured you were. so i dicked back kinda like 8==> <==8 hahaha.

Ratfink Nov 6, 2008 08:51 PM

No dude! They never touch!

snwbrderphat540 Nov 6, 2008 08:57 PM

LOL slow jerk. whitest kids you know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgMbU-we1o

you know you love it

Ratfink Nov 6, 2008 09:53 PM

Haha. Had to say that. Was not sure anyone would catch on.

280zx2by2 Nov 7, 2008 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
i was talkin about asa and 2bygay

im not the one with spiked hair...
and the twice pipes system is useless, more back pressure and weight, kinda like snw's mom

NismoPick Nov 7, 2008 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
and the twice pipes system is useless, more back pressure

Really? Please explain that to me....

snwbrderphat540 Nov 7, 2008 08:00 AM

yeah explain that to me as well cause I can prove that wrong

280zx2by2 Nov 7, 2008 12:58 PM

whats the point of exiting a 2.5 in in to 2 2.5 pipes? when it splits that causes turbulence aka a form of back pressure (more than single pipe) and if the pipes merge than thats two times it incounters back pressure as a result of turbulence... why do you think new perfirmace muffs have a straight trough design?

and the weight part is obvious


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